CoolMaN - Citroen XM 3.0 V6 24V (1999)

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coolman_kk
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Re: CoolMaN - Citroen XM 3.0 V6 24V (1999)

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Hope you can use this information!

Yes. Thank you.

coolman_kk
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Re: CoolMaN - Citroen XM 3.0 V6 24V (1999)

Hello :zwaai:

I want to ask you for DP-Engineering, Pieter Oonincx.
Is this man works well? :roll:

I have offer for tuning of my car to 320hp :mrgreen:

gomp
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Re: CoolMaN - Citroen XM 3.0 V6 24V (1999)

Try contacting http://www.citroenvanderlaan.nl/ Evert Jan, the owner is verry much into Vems and putting more power behind the pedal...

perhaps he can inform you abouth te does and don'ts for a Citroen.

Matthijs
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Re: CoolMaN - Citroen XM 3.0 V6 24V (1999)

Pieter Oonincx is Doctor Vems, Dave (D of DP) has helped forming some parts of the VEMS and they are the official VEMS suppliers in the NL and are well known over whole Europe for their stunning projects and quality parts
DP build all their projects with VEMS so with all respect for van der Laan, I certainly will vote for DP.
And about the do's and don't concerning citroen's: Dave and Pieter both have a PSA hart ;)

I don't think van der Laan will supply the parts needed for the 320 hp as DP makes the (turbo)parts themselfs.

Citrophile
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Re: CoolMaN - Citroen XM 3.0 V6 24V (1999)

320HP is fine, but what is the maximum torque the ZF 4HP20 can handle?
But I assume DP engineering has taken into account about the automatic gearbox.

coolman_kk
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Re: CoolMaN - Citroen XM 3.0 V6 24V (1999)

I asked Pieter and he said no problem for the gearbox. :problem:

gomp
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Re: CoolMaN - Citroen XM 3.0 V6 24V (1999)

THe reason why i mentioned van der laan is that he is into this kind of things hut has no gain in it.
That, combined with his knowledge About citroen engines, could be intresting.

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Re: CoolMaN - Citroen XM 3.0 V6 24V (1999)

320HP no problem for a 4HP20 automatic gearbox???????????

Not if you want to do a revision every 10.000 km..

Citrophile
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Re: CoolMaN - Citroen XM 3.0 V6 24V (1999)

The maximum torque is the limiting factor, not the power.

It is the same problem with the 3.0HDI, the torque is almost the same as the 2.7HDI but the power is increased. Both engines have the same compact Aisin automatic gearbox, which allows a maximum torque of 450Nm with reserve included.

2.7HDI 440Nm @1900rpm, 208hp @4000rpm
3.0HDI 450Nm @1600rpm, 241hp @3800rpm

Jaguar uses the same 3.0HDI with 500Nm @2000rpm, 241hp @4000rpm, because of the transversale placed engine. This allows to use a bigger gearbox and is developed with a higher maximum torque with reserve included.
The 2.7HDI has the same specifications as Citroën, because this engine was optimal engineered for its dimensions and was not allowed to tune it more. This why the 3.0HDI is launched which allows optimization to meet emission legislation in the future without developing a new engine again.

coolman_kk
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Re: CoolMaN - Citroen XM 3.0 V6 24V (1999)

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The engines are coupled with a 4HP20 automatic gearbox. This gearbox is manufactured by ZF and can accept an input torque up to 330 Nm.

http://www.citroenet.org.uk/passenger-cars/psa/c5/c5tech4.html

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267 N·m (197 lb·ft) @ 4000 rpm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citroën_XM

If that is true, I have some more torque to 330Nm :)

coolman_kk
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Re: CoolMaN - Citroen XM 3.0 V6 24V (1999)

I forgot to tell you that Pieter offer my and Supercharger not only Turbocharger :)
I don't now witch is better, maybe supercharger is more safety.

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Re: CoolMaN - Citroen XM 3.0 V6 24V (1999)

True, in the standard configuration, but there is a relation between torque and power..
For example:

http://www.dp-engineering.nl/EN/projects/406_v6_turbo.php

317 hp, less than they offered you
487Nm... Thats almost 50% over what the 4hp20's maximum torque..
The standard es9 torque is allready more than enough for your gearbox :wink:

coolman_kk
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Re: CoolMaN - Citroen XM 3.0 V6 24V (1999)

You right.
Then can change Torque Converter of 4HP20.

Xsara Coupe
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Re: CoolMaN - Citroen XM 3.0 V6 24V (1999)

I think it is not only the converter, but also the strength of all other components in the gearbox...

coolman_kk
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Re: CoolMaN - Citroen XM 3.0 V6 24V (1999)

Hello,
This year I plan to do a trip with my family.
Italy-Austria-Germany-Nederlands-Belgium-France

Do you planning your XM (Citroen) meetings for 2012 ?
I would be happy if I can see some of you.
8)

Marc Alsemgeest
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Re: CoolMaN - Citroen XM 3.0 V6 24V (1999)

Hi there Coolman,

You can read the planning on the site: http://www.xmclub.nl/index.php?option=com_seminar&Itemid=55. It is in Dutch of course, but at least you have the dates. :D

Voorgangers: BX 19D: SR-39-ZY (rood); XM 2.1TD YS-93-GH(Berline Rouge); XM 2.1TD HL-LR-66(Berline Noir Verni); XM 2.1TD JN-SP-74(Break Vert Vega); XM 2.1TD 08-RD-VZ(Break Vert Vega); XM2.1TD 12-DF-FK (Break, Vert Vega)

wimb
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Re: CoolMaN - Citroen XM 3.0 V6 24V (1999)

And there is Citromobile at 5 and 6 of may: http://www.citromobile.nl/indexen.html 8)
Off course the XM club will have its stand there too.

Citroën-das-pas-fën
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Re: CoolMaN - Citroen XM 3.0 V6 24V (1999)

I guess you'll be able to meet almost all of us if you attend both days of CitroMobile :mrgreen:

  XM 3.0 V6 12 klepper. An oldie but a goodie.
  • Turbo's blazen.
  • Schokbrekers zuigen.
  • V6-en huilen.
La Noir Verni
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Re: CoolMaN - Citroen XM 3.0 V6 24V (1999)

Exactly! Come to Citromobile in "Vijfhuizen" near Amsterdam. It's really big and offers you lots and lots of Citroëns and all kind of things related to them! :D Mainly old stuff (Traction 2CV DS & CX) but it's worth the journey!

wimb
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Re: CoolMaN - Citroen XM 3.0 V6 24V (1999)

Last year even some people came over from Japan to inquire about spare parts for the XM. :wtf:

coolman_kk
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Re: CoolMaN - Citroen XM 3.0 V6 24V (1999)

I come with my wife on Citromobile 2012 with airplane (in August by car - Germany trip)
We will be in Amsterdam from 04.05 - 07.05 in hotel "Quentin Hotel".

See you :zwaai: :D

Mark
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Re: CoolMaN - Citroen XM 3.0 V6 24V (1999)

Heee Nice!!, and how will you be recognizable?

A red rose in a buttonhole off youre jacket? ore a string off icecubes around youre neck? :mrgreen:

Je vais reussir, tout simplement parce que je refuse de perdre.

coolman_kk
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Re: CoolMaN - Citroen XM 3.0 V6 24V (1999)

It's easy :mrgreen:
IMAGE(http://myfacewhen.com/i/431.jpg)

We will be with t-shirts of "Club Citroen Bulgaria".

This is me and my wife
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La Noir Verni
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Re: CoolMaN - Citroen XM 3.0 V6 24V (1999)

:rofl: Love your sense of humor!

wimb
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Re: CoolMaN - Citroen XM 3.0 V6 24V (1999)

:wtf: He is dead serious.

wimb
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Re: CoolMaN - Citroen XM 3.0 V6 24V (1999)

Ah, Quentin hotel. Between the world famous Vondelpark and Leidseplein. Good spot to discover Amsterdam. :thumbup:
Too bad you're not there at 30 april as it's Queen's day:

coolman_kk
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Re: CoolMaN - Citroen XM 3.0 V6 24V (1999)

:|
That's amazing :shock: but no way come to 30 Apr, maybe next year.

wimb
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Re: CoolMaN - Citroen XM 3.0 V6 24V (1999)

:grijns:

Mark
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Re: CoolMaN - Citroen XM 3.0 V6 24V (1999)

La Noir Verni zegt:

:rofl: Love your sense of humor!

+1

Je vais reussir, tout simplement parce que je refuse de perdre.

coolman_kk
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Re: CoolMaN - Citroen XM 3.0 V6 24V (1999)

Tomorrow I will attend the exhibition Retromobile 2012 and Citroen Conservatory.
If someone in Paris may be seen. 8)

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